Italian Job (old) and Ocean's 11
Continuing the tradition of comparing two movies ...
But before going ahead, what makes a good "con" movie?
- ensemble of great cast
- complex plot (a lot should happen behind the camera)
- minimum dialogs, great oneliners, or even very stupid dialogs
(Of course) Both of these movies pass this test ( I am talking about old "Italian Job" here. If you want to know my thoughts on the new one then skip the blog and go to the end.) ! And I think these movies are the two best con movies made .... ever.
I think first two points are obvious but I want to say something about the "dialogs".
Italian Job has this great scene about "Annette" which is completely unnecessary and stupid, but nevertheless it very important. It has great oneliners like
"everybody in the world is bent"
"gentlemen its long walk back to England and its that way"
"we must arrange a funeral"
"Look happy stupid bastards ... we one, didn't we?"
Ocean's 11 is pretty compact, it does not have scenes like "Annette" but it stays very tight on dialogs. For example ..
After they bug the casino, Livingston Dell almost gets caught. The reaction to that from Clooney and Pitt is "Oh! well?" .... "yes!" .... that's it!
When Cheadle comes to tell them that his plan to blow the grid has failed, Clooney looks at Pitt and says "We can always .." and Pitt says "By tomorrow? no way".
Elliott Gould's "who do have in mind?"
Great stuff ...
It's very difficult to pick the best movie from these two movies.
Ocean's 11 could have been the best but they decided to make a sequel ..... why on earth someone thinks things like that??
On the other hand, Italian Job ends with a possibility of a great sequel but no one has dared to make one .... that is a plus point.
But Italian Job is all about making money.
And Ocean's 11 is also about that but is more about "screwing the guy who is screwing you wife" so it gets a plus point.
So, they stay at the top ... both of them !
There is big list of worse con movies like Heist and Italian Job (new) but why waste time on them?
But before going ahead, what makes a good "con" movie?
- ensemble of great cast
- complex plot (a lot should happen behind the camera)
- minimum dialogs, great oneliners, or even very stupid dialogs
(Of course) Both of these movies pass this test ( I am talking about old "Italian Job" here. If you want to know my thoughts on the new one then skip the blog and go to the end.) ! And I think these movies are the two best con movies made .... ever.
I think first two points are obvious but I want to say something about the "dialogs".
Italian Job has this great scene about "Annette" which is completely unnecessary and stupid, but nevertheless it very important. It has great oneliners like
"everybody in the world is bent"
"gentlemen its long walk back to England and its that way"
"we must arrange a funeral"
"Look happy stupid bastards ... we one, didn't we?"
Ocean's 11 is pretty compact, it does not have scenes like "Annette" but it stays very tight on dialogs. For example ..
After they bug the casino, Livingston Dell almost gets caught. The reaction to that from Clooney and Pitt is "Oh! well?" .... "yes!" .... that's it!
When Cheadle comes to tell them that his plan to blow the grid has failed, Clooney looks at Pitt and says "We can always .." and Pitt says "By tomorrow? no way".
Elliott Gould's "who do have in mind?"
Great stuff ...
It's very difficult to pick the best movie from these two movies.
Ocean's 11 could have been the best but they decided to make a sequel ..... why on earth someone thinks things like that??
On the other hand, Italian Job ends with a possibility of a great sequel but no one has dared to make one .... that is a plus point.
But Italian Job is all about making money.
And Ocean's 11 is also about that but is more about "screwing the guy who is screwing you wife" so it gets a plus point.
So, they stay at the top ... both of them !
There is big list of worse con movies like Heist and Italian Job (new) but why waste time on them?
posted by abercrombie at 3:45 PM
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